
The studio lights were a bit warmer than I remembered them being back at Desilu, but the chair was certainly more comfortable. I was sitting there, across from a young man who looked like he hadn’t even been born when we wrapped our final season, yet he spoke about Stalag 13 as if it were his childhood home.
We were doing one of those career retrospective pieces, the kind you do when the hair has gone fully silver and the monocle has long since been retired to a velvet box in the study.
The interviewer was shuffling his notes, looking for a deep, philosophical question about the satire of the show, but then a voice came from the small audience gathered in the wings.
It was a woman, probably in her sixties, holding an old program from a stage play I’d done years later. She didn’t want to know about the politics of the sixties or the technicalities of the multi-camera setup.
She just leaned forward and asked, “Werner, did John Banner ever actually make you scared, or were you both just trying not to laugh the entire time?”
I couldn’t help it. I felt that familiar crinkle around my eyes. I leaned into the microphone, the ghost of Colonel Klink’s stiff posture momentarily returning to my spine before I relaxed again.
I told her that John was the most delightful man I had ever known, a true gentleman who had seen the worst of the world and decided to respond with nothing but kindness and a voracious appetite for life.
But there was one afternoon, I told her, during the filming of the third season, where that kindness and that appetite collided in a way that nearly cost us an entire day of production.
We were filming a scene where Klink was supposed to be in a towering, Germanic rage because a certain prisoner had gone missing, and I had John backed into a corner of the office.
I was screaming at the top of my lungs, inches from his nose, and the script called for him to be trembling in absolute terror.
The director, Gene Reynolds, wanted it played completely straight. No jokes, no winks to the camera. He wanted the audience to believe, just for a second, that Schultz was in real trouble.
The set was dead silent, the crew was holding their breath, and I reached up to adjust my monocle, preparing to deliver the final, crushing blow of the dialogue.
And that’s when it happened.
It wasn’t a noise, at least not at first.
It was a scent.
A very specific, very sweet, and very unauthorized scent of cinnamon and warm apples.
I was right in John’s face, my finger pointed at his chest, and as I took a deep breath to bark out the next line about the Gestapo, I saw his jaw move.
Just a tiny, rhythmic twitch.
Now, you have to understand the discipline on that set. We moved fast. If you broke character, you were costing the studio money, and I took great pride in my professional focus.
But as I looked closer at John’s supposedly terrified expression, I noticed that his cheeks were just a little bit more bulbous than they had been five minutes earlier during the lighting check.
He wasn’t trembling from fear. He was trembling because he was trying to swallow an enormous piece of apple strudel that he had apparently smuggled onto the set from the craft services table and hidden in the pocket of his Greatcoat.
He must have thought he could finish it during the camera reset, but Gene had called “Action” faster than expected.
So there he was, the “lovable” Schultz, standing at attention while his superior officer screamed at him, with a mouth full of pastry that was slowly but surely trying to make its exit.
I froze. I could feel the heat rising in my neck.
I said the line, “Schultz, what is the meaning of this?”
It was supposed to be a question about the missing prisoner.
But John, God bless him, took it literally.
He looked at me with those wide, watery eyes, his face turning a shade of pink that matched the sunset, and he tried to speak.
A single, solitary crumb of crust escaped his lips and landed directly on the lapel of my pristine commandant’s uniform.
The silence that followed was heavy. I could hear the hum of the overhead lights.
John’s eyes went even wider. He knew he was caught.
He made a heroic effort to swallow, a gulp so loud it probably registered on the sound mixer’s needles in the next building.
Then, in that iconic, hushed tone, he whispered, “I see nothing… but it is delicious, Herr Kommandant.”
That was it. The dam broke.
I didn’t just chuckle. I collapsed. I had to grab onto the edge of Klink’s desk just to stay upright.
I started laughing so hard that the monocle finally gave up its grip on my face and went flying across the room, bouncing off a map of the Western Front.
Behind the camera, I heard a muffled snort. It was Gene. He had his head in his hands, but his shoulders were shaking.
Within seconds, the entire crew was in hysterics.
The cameraman actually stepped away from the eyepiece because he was laughing too hard to keep the frame steady.
John, seeing that he was no longer in danger of a professional reprimand, finally gave up the ghost. He reached into his pocket, pulled out the remaining half of the strudel, and offered it to me.
“It’s still warm, Werner,” he said, perfectly casual, as if we weren’t standing in the middle of a simulated prisoner of war camp.
We couldn’t get back to work for at least forty-five minutes.
Every time I looked at him, I saw that little crumb on my lapel and I would start all over again.
The director finally had to send us both outside to walk around the barracks just to clear our heads.
But even out there, in the fake snow of the backlot, John just kept chewing and smiling.
He told me later that he’d been worried the strudel would get cold if he waited for the scene to end, and in his mind, cold strudel was a far greater crime than a ruined take.
It’s moments like those that I remember most when people ask about the show.
It wasn’t the scripts or the ratings or the awards.
It was the sheer, ridiculous joy of being a group of friends dressed up in ridiculous outfits, trying to keep a straight face while one of us was inevitably doing something absurd.
John taught me a lot about not taking the uniform too seriously.
I think the audience sensed that, too. They saw the twinkle in our eyes, even when we were supposed to be enemies.
You can’t fake that kind of chemistry, and you certainly can’t fake the way a piece of strudel can bring a multi-million dollar production to a grinding halt.
I still have that monocle somewhere.
I like to think it still has a little bit of John’s laughter trapped in the glass.
Humor wasn’t just a job for us; it was the way we survived the long days and the even longer shadows of the history we were playing with.
What’s a moment in your life where you absolutely had to stay serious but failed miserably?